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+++ b/doc/dox/whatsnew.dox
@@ -94,6 +94,7 @@ Changes, compared to  \ref page_whatsnew_V4_0_0 "v4.0.0" include:
     <li>NEW: added entry for JKQTBasePlotterStyle::plotLabelColor to set the plot label color</li>
     <li>NEW: added JKQTBasePlotterStyle::plotLabelTopBorder to set the  spacing between top and plot label</li>
     <li>NEW: Due to addition of JKQTMathText::setFontOptions() and the matchign extension of JKQTMathText::setFontSpecial() (see below) you can now add modifiers like <tt>+BOLD+ITALIC</tt> to any font-name provided to JKQTPlotter and in style INI-files</li>
+    <li>NEW: added JKQTPLabelMinBesides and JKQTPLabelMaxBesides to JKQTPLabelPosition, so labels can be set besides the axes</li>
   </ul></li>
   
   <li>JKQTMathText:<ul>
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diff --git a/lib/jkqtmathtext/jkqtmathtexttools.h b/lib/jkqtmathtext/jkqtmathtexttools.h
index 448876ecc8..c34f692116 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtmathtext/jkqtmathtexttools.h
+++ b/lib/jkqtmathtext/jkqtmathtexttools.h
@@ -393,11 +393,11 @@ struct JKQTMATHTEXT_LIB_EXPORT JKQTMathTextNodeSize {
     JKQTMathTextNodeSize();
     /** \brief width of whole block */
     double width;
-    /** \brief baselineHeight of whole block */
+    /** \brief baselineHeight of whole block, i.e. the ascent */
     double baselineHeight;
     /** \brief overallHeight of whole block */
     double overallHeight;
-    /** \brief strikeoutPos of whole block */
+    /** \brief strikeoutPos of whole block, i.e. distance of the strikeout position from the baseline */
     double strikeoutPos;
     /** \brief x-correction (<0 = move to the left) for subscripts, i.e. approximately at the height of the baseline
      *
@@ -408,7 +408,7 @@ struct JKQTMATHTEXT_LIB_EXPORT JKQTMathTextNodeSize {
     double baselineXCorrection;
     /** \brief x-correction (>0 = move to the right) for superscripts, i.e. approximately at the top  of the box */
     double topXCorrection;
-    /** \brief calculate the descent */
+    /** \brief calculate the descent (overallHeight-baselineHeight) */
     inline double getDescent() const { return overallHeight-baselineHeight; }
     /** \brief calculate the overall size in floating-point precision */
     inline QSizeF getSize() const { return QSizeF(width, overallHeight); }
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/graphs/jkqtpimagergb.cpp b/lib/jkqtplotter/graphs/jkqtpimagergb.cpp
index 0d32864a1d..e231b863f6 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/graphs/jkqtpimagergb.cpp
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/graphs/jkqtpimagergb.cpp
@@ -152,18 +152,19 @@ void JKQTPRGBMathImage::getOutsideSize(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, int& leftS
                 colorBarRightAxis->setRange(internalDataMin, internalDataMax);
                 colorBarRightAxis->setAxisWidth(sizeFactor*colorBarRelativeHeight*parent->getPlotHeight());
                 colorBarRightAxisB->setAxisLabel(imageNameR);
-                QSizeF s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
-                QSizeF s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
-                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) rightSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.width()+s1.width());
+                const auto s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
+                const auto s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
+                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) rightSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.requiredSize
+                                                                                                                                          +s1.requiredSize);
             }
             if (colorBarTopVisible) {
                 //if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset);
                 colorBarTopAxis->setRange(internalDataMin, internalDataMax);
                 colorBarTopAxis->setAxisWidth(sizeFactor*colorBarRelativeHeight*parent->getPlotWidth());
                 colorBarTopAxisB->setAxisLabel(imageNameR);
-                QSizeF s2=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
-                QSizeF s1=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
-                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.height()+s1.height());
+                const auto s2=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
+                const auto s1=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
+                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.requiredSize+s1.requiredSize);
             }
             firstC=true;
         }
@@ -175,18 +176,18 @@ void JKQTPRGBMathImage::getOutsideSize(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, int& leftS
                 colorBarRightAxisG->setRange(internalDataMinG, internalDataMaxG);
                 colorBarRightAxisG->setAxisWidth(sizeFactor*colorBarRelativeHeight*parent->getPlotHeight());
                 colorBarRightAxisB->setAxisLabel(imageNameG);
-                QSizeF s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
-                QSizeF s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
-                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) rightSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.width()+s1.width());
+                const auto s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
+                const auto s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
+                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) rightSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.requiredSize+s1.requiredSize);
             }
             if (colorBarTopVisible) {
                 //if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset);
                 colorBarTopAxisG->setRange(internalDataMinG, internalDataMaxG);
                 colorBarTopAxisG->setAxisWidth(sizeFactor*colorBarRelativeHeight*parent->getPlotWidth());
                 colorBarTopAxisB->setAxisLabel(imageNameG);
-                QSizeF s2=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
-                QSizeF s1=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize1(painter);
-                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.height()+s1.height());
+                const auto s2=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
+                const auto s1=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize1(painter);
+                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.requiredSize+s1.requiredSize);
              }
             firstC=true;
         }
@@ -198,18 +199,18 @@ void JKQTPRGBMathImage::getOutsideSize(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, int& leftS
                 colorBarRightAxisB->setRange(internalDataMinB, internalDataMaxB);
                 colorBarRightAxisB->setAxisWidth(sizeFactor*colorBarRelativeHeight*parent->getPlotHeight());
                 colorBarRightAxisB->setAxisLabel(imageNameB);
-                QSizeF s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
-                QSizeF s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
-                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) rightSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.width()+s1.width());
+                const auto s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
+                const auto s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
+                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) rightSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.requiredSize+s1.requiredSize);
             }
             if (colorBarTopVisible) {
                 //if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset);
                 colorBarTopAxisB->setRange(internalDataMinB, internalDataMaxB);
                 colorBarTopAxisB->setAxisWidth(sizeFactor*colorBarRelativeHeight*parent->getPlotWidth());
                 colorBarTopAxisB->setAxisLabel(imageNameB);
-                QSizeF s2=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
-                QSizeF s1=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize1(painter);
-                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.height()+s1.height());
+                const auto s2=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize2(painter);
+                const auto s1=colorBarTopAxisB->getSize1(painter);
+                if (!colorbarsSideBySide || !firstC) topSpace+=parent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+static_cast<double>(s2.requiredSize+s1.requiredSize);
             }
             firstC=true;
         }
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.cpp b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.cpp
index d90803e16d..6a62170b81 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.cpp
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.cpp
@@ -117,21 +117,20 @@ bool JKQTBasePlotter::deregisterSaveDataAdapter(JKQTPSaveDataAdapter *adapter)
 
 
 
-JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeDetail(const QFont &fm, const QString &text, QPainter& painter)
+JKQTMathTextNodeSize JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeDetail(const QFont &fm, const QString &text, QPainter& painter)
 {
     return getTextSizeDetail(fm.family(), fm.pointSizeF(), text, painter);
 }
 
-JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeDetail(const QString &fontName, double fontSize, const QString &text, QPainter& painter)
+JKQTMathTextNodeSize JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeDetail(const QString &fontName, double fontSize, const QString &text, QPainter& painter)
 {
-    thread_local QHash<JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeKey, JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData> s_TextSizeDataCache;
+    thread_local QHash<JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeKey, JKQTMathTextNodeSize> s_TextSizeDataCache;
     JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeKey  dh(fontName, fontSize, text, painter.device());
     if (s_TextSizeDataCache.contains(dh)) return s_TextSizeDataCache[dh];
-    JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData d;
     mathText.setFontSpecial(fontName);
     mathText.setFontSize(fontSize);
     mathText.parse(text);
-    mathText.getSizeDetail(painter, d.width, d.ascent, d.descent, d.strikeoutPos);
+    const JKQTMathTextNodeSize d=mathText.getSizeDetail(painter);
     s_TextSizeDataCache[dh]=d;
     //qDebug()<<"+++ textsize hash size: "<<tbrh.size();
     return d;
@@ -140,10 +139,10 @@ JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeDetail(const QString &
 void JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeDetail(const QString &fontName, double fontSize, const QString &text, QPainter &painter, double &width, double &ascent, double &descent, double &strikeoutPos)
 {
     if (!text.isEmpty()) {
-        JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData d=getTextSizeDetail(fontName, fontSize, text, painter);
+        const JKQTMathTextNodeSize d=getTextSizeDetail(fontName, fontSize, text, painter);
         width=d.width;
-        ascent=d.ascent;
-        descent=d.descent;
+        ascent=d.baselineHeight;
+        descent=d.getDescent();
         strikeoutPos=d.strikeoutPos;
     } else {
         width=0;
@@ -166,8 +165,8 @@ QSizeF JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeSize(const QFont &fm, const QString &text, QP
 QSizeF JKQTBasePlotter::getTextSizeSize(const QString &fontName, double fontSize, const QString &text, QPainter &painter)
 {
     if (text.isEmpty()) return QSizeF(0,0);
-    JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData d=getTextSizeDetail(fontName, fontSize, text, painter);
-    return QSizeF(d.width, d.ascent+d.descent);
+    const JKQTMathTextNodeSize d=getTextSizeDetail(fontName, fontSize, text, painter);
+    return d.getSize();
 }
 
 
@@ -875,18 +874,24 @@ void JKQTBasePlotter::calcPlotScaling(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter){
 
     // read additional size required for coordinate axes
     double elongateLeft=0,elongateRight=0;
-    double elongateMin=0,elongateMax=0;
-    QSizeF s=xAxis->getSize1(painter, &elongateMin, &elongateMax);
-    internalPlotBorderBottom+=s.height();
-    if (elongateMin>0) elongateLeft=qMax(elongateLeft,elongateMin);
-    if (elongateMax>0) elongateRight=qMax(elongateRight,elongateMax);
+    auto s=xAxis->getSize1(painter);
+    internalPlotBorderBottom+=s.requiredSize;
+    if (s.elongateMin>0) elongateLeft=qMax(elongateLeft,s.elongateMin);
+    if (s.elongateMax>0) elongateRight=qMax(elongateRight,s.elongateMax);
     s=xAxis->getSize2(painter);
-    internalPlotBorderTop+=s.height();
+    if (s.elongateMin>0) elongateLeft=qMax(elongateLeft,s.elongateMin);
+    if (s.elongateMax>0) elongateRight=qMax(elongateRight,s.elongateMax);
+    internalPlotBorderTop+=s.requiredSize;
 
+    double elongateBottom=0,elongateTop=0;
     s=yAxis->getSize1(painter);
-    internalPlotBorderLeft+=s.width();
+    if (s.elongateMin>0) elongateBottom=qMax(elongateBottom,s.elongateMin);
+    if (s.elongateMax>0) elongateTop=qMax(elongateTop,s.elongateMax);
+    internalPlotBorderLeft+=s.requiredSize;
     s=yAxis->getSize2(painter);
-    internalPlotBorderRight+=s.width();
+    if (s.elongateMin>0) elongateBottom=qMax(elongateBottom,s.elongateMin);
+    if (s.elongateMax>0) elongateTop=qMax(elongateTop,s.elongateMax);
+    internalPlotBorderRight+=s.requiredSize;
 
     internalPlotBorderTop_notIncludingAxisAndOutsidePlotSections=internalPlotBorderTop;
     internalPlotBorderLeft_notIncludingAxisAndOutsidePlotSections=internalPlotBorderLeft;
@@ -896,16 +901,18 @@ void JKQTBasePlotter::calcPlotScaling(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter){
 
     // read size required by secondary axes
     for (const auto& ax: qAsConst(secondaryYAxis)) {
-        internalPlotBorderLeft+=ax->getSize1(painter).width()+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
-        internalPlotBorderRight+=ax->getSize2(painter).width()+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
+        internalPlotBorderLeft+=ax->getSize1(painter).requiredSize+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
+        internalPlotBorderRight+=ax->getSize2(painter).requiredSize+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
     }
     for (const auto& ax: qAsConst(secondaryXAxis)) {
-        internalPlotBorderBottom+=ax->getSize1(painter).height()+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
-        internalPlotBorderTop+=ax->getSize2(painter).height()+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
+        internalPlotBorderBottom+=ax->getSize1(painter).requiredSize+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
+        internalPlotBorderTop+=ax->getSize2(painter).requiredSize+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
     }
 
     if (internalPlotBorderRight<elongateRight) internalPlotBorderRight=elongateRight;
     if (internalPlotBorderLeft<elongateLeft) internalPlotBorderLeft=elongateLeft;
+    if (internalPlotBorderTop<elongateTop) internalPlotBorderTop=elongateTop;
+    if (internalPlotBorderBottom<elongateBottom) internalPlotBorderBottom=elongateBottom;
 
     internalPlotBorderTop_notIncludingOutsidePlotSections=internalPlotBorderTop;
     internalPlotBorderLeft_notIncludingOutsidePlotSections=internalPlotBorderLeft;
@@ -1047,15 +1054,15 @@ void JKQTBasePlotter::drawSystemXAxis(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
     //qDebug()<<"  end JKQTBasePlotter::drawSystemXAxis";
 
     if (secondaryXAxis.size()>0) {
-        double ibMove1=xAxis->getSize1(painter).height();
+        double ibMove1=xAxis->getSize1(painter).requiredSize;
         if (ibMove1>0) ibMove1+=plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
-        double ibMove2=xAxis->getSize2(painter).height();
+        double ibMove2=xAxis->getSize2(painter).requiredSize;
         if (ibMove2>0) ibMove1+=plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
 
         for (auto& ax: secondaryXAxis) {
             ax->drawAxes(painter, ibMove1, ibMove2);
-            const double add1=ax->getSize1(painter).height();
-            const double add2=ax->getSize2(painter).height();
+            const double add1=ax->getSize1(painter).requiredSize;
+            const double add2=ax->getSize2(painter).requiredSize;
             if (add1>0) ibMove1+=add1+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
             if (add2>0) ibMove2+=add2+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
         }
@@ -1071,15 +1078,15 @@ void JKQTBasePlotter::drawSystemYAxis(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
     //qDebug()<<"  end JKQTBasePlotter::drawSystemYAxis";
 
     if (secondaryYAxis.size()>0) {
-        double ibMove1=yAxis->getSize1(painter).width();
+        double ibMove1=yAxis->getSize1(painter).requiredSize;
         if (ibMove1>0) ibMove1+=plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
-        double ibMove2=yAxis->getSize2(painter).width();
+        double ibMove2=yAxis->getSize2(painter).requiredSize;
         if (ibMove2>0) ibMove1+=plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
 
         for (auto& ax: secondaryYAxis) {
             ax->drawAxes(painter, ibMove1, ibMove2);
-            const double add1=ax->getSize1(painter).width();
-            const double add2=ax->getSize2(painter).width();
+            const double add1=ax->getSize1(painter).requiredSize;
+            const double add2=ax->getSize2(painter).requiredSize;
             if (add1>0) ibMove1+=add1+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
             if (add2>0) ibMove2+=add2+plotterStyle.secondaryAxisSeparation;
         }
@@ -5410,12 +5417,6 @@ bool JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeKey::operator==(const JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeKey
 }
 
 
-JKQTBasePlotter::textSizeData::textSizeData():
-    ascent(0), descent(0), width(0), strikeoutPos(0)
-{
-
-}
-
 
 
 
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.h b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.h
index 9a66785dd7..5c455b7c94 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.h
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpbaseplotter.h
@@ -1428,13 +1428,6 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTBasePlotter: public QObject {
 //////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////////
 /** @name Utilities: (math-markup) Text Sizing */
 /**@{*/
-        /** \brief internal tool class for text sizes
-         *   \ingroup jkqtpplottersupprt
-         *  \internal */
-        struct JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT textSizeData {
-            explicit textSizeData();
-            double ascent, descent, width, strikeoutPos;
-        };
 
         /** \brief internal tool class for text-sizess in a plot key
          *  \ingroup jkqtpplottersupprt
@@ -1448,14 +1441,14 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTBasePlotter: public QObject {
 
             bool operator==(const textSizeKey& other) const;
         };
-        /** \brief calculates a textSizeData for the given string \a text if it would be drawn on \a painter with font \a fm
+        /** \brief calculates a JKQTMathTextNodeSize for the given string \a text if it would be drawn on \a painter with font \a fm
          * \internal
          */
-        textSizeData getTextSizeDetail(const QFont &fm, const QString& text,  QPainter& painter);
-        /** \brief calculates a textSizeData for the given string \a text if it would be drawn on \a painter with font \a fontName
+        JKQTMathTextNodeSize getTextSizeDetail(const QFont &fm, const QString& text,  QPainter& painter);
+        /** \brief calculates a JKQTMathTextNodeSize for the given string \a text if it would be drawn on \a painter with font \a fontName
          * \internal
          */
-        textSizeData getTextSizeDetail(const QString& fontName, double fontSize, const QString& text,  QPainter &painter);
+        JKQTMathTextNodeSize getTextSizeDetail(const QString& fontName, double fontSize, const QString& text,  QPainter &painter);
         /** \brief calculates a text-size details for the given string \a text if it would be drawn on \a painter with font \a fontName and font size \a fontSize
          * \internal
          */
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.cpp b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.cpp
index b0373fafa2..950ffc8569 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.cpp
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.cpp
@@ -1153,9 +1153,9 @@ void JKQTPCoordinateAxis::setColor(QColor c)
     setTickLabelColor(c);
 }
 
-std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF> JKQTPCoordinateAxis::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &/*painter*/)
+JKQTPCoordinateAxis::Axis0ElementsSizeDescription JKQTPCoordinateAxis::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter)
 {
-    return std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF>(QSizeF(0,0),QSizeF(0,0));
+    return JKQTPCoordinateAxis::Axis0ElementsSizeDescription();
 }
 
 
@@ -1302,8 +1302,9 @@ JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::JKQTPVerticalAxisBase(JKQTBasePlotter* parent):
 }
 
 
-std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF> JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode0==JKQTPCADMnone) return std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF>(QSizeF(0,0),QSizeF(0,0));
+JKQTPCoordinateAxis::Axis0ElementsSizeDescription JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode0==JKQTPCADMnone) return Axis0ElementsSizeDescription();
+    Axis0ElementsSizeDescription res;
     double ptwidth=0;
     double ptwidth_r=0;
     const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode0&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
@@ -1311,13 +1312,31 @@ std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF> JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& p
     if (axisStyle.drawMode0.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) { ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength; ptwidth_r+=axisStyle.tickInsideLength; }
     if (axisStyle.drawMode0.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
         ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
+        const QSizeF maxLabelSize=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter);
+        if (getTickLabelAngle()<-0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.height()+2;
+        else if (getTickLabelAngle()<0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.height()*0.6+2;
+        if (getTickLabelAngle()>0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.height()+2;
+        else if (getTickLabelAngle()>-0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.height()*0.6+2;
         // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
-        labwidth+=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter).width();
+        labwidth+=maxLabelSize.width();
     }
     if (axisStyle.drawMode0.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
-        ptwidth+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
-        // find out size of axis label
-        labwidth+=parent->getTextSizeSize(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter).height();
+        const auto labSize=parent->getTextSizeDetail(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter);
+        if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+            labwidth=qMax(labwidth, labSize.width/2.0+2);
+            res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.overallHeight);
+        } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+            labwidth=qMax(labwidth, labSize.width/2.0+2);
+            res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.overallHeight);
+        } else {
+            ptwidth+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
+            // find out size of axis label
+            labwidth+=labSize.overallHeight;
+        }
     }
 
     const double zaxispos=getZeroAxisPos();
@@ -1325,51 +1344,111 @@ std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF> JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& p
     const double bottom_offset=(bottom-zaxispos);
     const double top=x2p(axismax);
     const double top_offset=(zaxispos-top);
-    const QSizeF s1(qMax(0.0,qMax(parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth)+labwidth, arrowSize)-bottom_offset), getParentPlotWidth());
-    const QSizeF s2(qMax(0.0,qMax(parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth_r), arrowSize)-top_offset), getParentPlotWidth());
+
+    res.requiredSize=qMax(0.0,qMax(parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth)+labwidth, arrowSize)-bottom_offset);
+    res.requiredSizeOpposite=qMax(0.0,qMax(parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth_r), arrowSize)-top_offset);
     //qDebug()<<"JKQTPVerticalAxis::getSize0():  s1="<<s1<<", s2="<<s2<<", bottom_offset="<<bottom_offset<<", top_offset="<<top_offset<<" top="<<top<<", bottom="<<bottom<<", zaxispos="<<zaxispos;
-    return std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF>(s1,s2);
+    return res;
 }
 
 
-QSizeF JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, double* elongateBottom, double *elongateTop) {
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1==JKQTPCADMnone) return QSize(0,0);
-    double ptwidth=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
-    const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode1&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
-    double labwidth=0;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
-        ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
-        // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
-        labwidth+=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter).width();
+JKQTPCoordinateAxis::AxisElementsSizeDescription JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
+    AxisElementsSizeDescription res;
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode1!=JKQTPCADMnone) {
+        double ptwidth=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
+        const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode1&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
+        double labwidth=0;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
+            ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
+            // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
+            const QSizeF maxLabelSize=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter);
+            if (getTickLabelAngle()<-0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.height()+2;
+            else if (getTickLabelAngle()<0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.height()*0.6+2;
+            if (getTickLabelAngle()>0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.height()+2;
+            else if (getTickLabelAngle()>-0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.height()*0.6+2;
+            labwidth+=maxLabelSize.width();
+        }
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
+            const auto labSize=parent->getTextSizeDetail(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter);
+            if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+                labwidth=qMax(labwidth, labSize.width/2.0+2);
+                res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.overallHeight);
+            } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+                labwidth=qMax(labwidth, labSize.width/2.0+2);
+                res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.overallHeight);
+            } else {
+                ptwidth+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
+                // find out size of axis label
+                labwidth+=labSize.overallHeight;
+            }
+        }
+        res.requiredSize=qMax(parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth)+labwidth, arrowSize);
     }
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
-        ptwidth+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
-        // find out size of axis label
-        labwidth+=parent->getTextSizeSize(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter).height();
-    }
-
-    return QSizeF(qMax(parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth)+labwidth, arrowSize), getParentPlotWidth()).expandedTo(getSize0(painter).first);
+    const auto size0=getSize0(painter);
+    res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, size0.elongateMax);
+    res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, size0.elongateMin);
+    res.requiredSize=qMax(res.requiredSize, size0.requiredSize);
+    return res;
 }
 
-QSizeF JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2==JKQTPCADMnone) return QSize(0,0);
-    double ptwidth=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
-    const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode2&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
-    double labwidth=0;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
-        ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
-        // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
-        labwidth+=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter).width();
-    }
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
-        ptwidth+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
-        // find out size of axis label
-        labwidth+=parent->getTextSizeSize(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter).height();
+QSizeF JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getQSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter)
+{
+    return QSizeF(getSize1(painter).requiredSize, getParentPlotWidth());
+}
+
+JKQTPCoordinateAxis::AxisElementsSizeDescription JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
+    AxisElementsSizeDescription res;
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode2!=JKQTPCADMnone) {
+        double ptwidth=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
+        const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode2&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
+        double labwidth=0;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
+            ptwidth+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
+            // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
+            const QSizeF maxLabelSize=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter);
+            if (getTickLabelAngle()<-0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.height()+2;
+            else if (getTickLabelAngle()<0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.height()*0.6+2;
+            if (getTickLabelAngle()>0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.height()+2;
+            else if (getTickLabelAngle()>-0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.height()*0.6+2;
+            labwidth+=maxLabelSize.width();
+        }
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
+            const auto labSize=parent->getTextSizeDetail(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter);
+            if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+                labwidth=qMax(labwidth, labSize.width/2.0+2);
+                res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.overallHeight);
+            } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+                labwidth=qMax(labwidth, labSize.width/2.0+2);
+                res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.overallHeight);
+            } else {
+                ptwidth+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
+                // find out size of axis label
+                labwidth+=labSize.overallHeight;
+            }
+        }
+        res.requiredSize=qMax(arrowSize, parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth)+labwidth);
     }
 
-    return QSizeF(qMax(arrowSize, parent->pt2px(painter, ptwidth)+labwidth), getParentPlotWidth()).expandedTo(getSize0(painter).second);
+    const auto size0=getSize0(painter);
+    res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, size0.elongateMax);
+    res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, size0.elongateMin);
+    res.requiredSize=qMax(res.requiredSize, size0.requiredSizeOpposite);
+    return res;
+}
+
+QSizeF JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::getQSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter)
+{
+    return QSizeF(getSize2(painter).requiredSize, getParentPlotWidth());
 }
 
 void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawGrids(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
@@ -1528,7 +1607,8 @@ void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawTickLabel2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double
 
 
 void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double left, double bottom, QSizeF labelMax, JKQTPCADrawMode drawMode) {
-    double labelOffset=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    const double labelOffset0=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    double labelOffset=labelOffset0;
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickOutsideLength);
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
         labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickLabelDistance);
@@ -1540,27 +1620,38 @@ void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double
     getParentMathText()->setFontSpecial(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName);
     getParentMathText()->setFontColor(axisStyle.labelColor);
     getParentMathText()->parse(axisLabel);
-    const JKQTMathTextNodeSize labelsize=getParentMathText()->getSizeDetail(painter);
+
+    const auto labSize=getParentMathText()->getSizeDetail(painter);
 
 
-    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), labelsize.overallHeight);//plotBorderLeft-30);
-    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintiner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
-    painter.translate(QPointF(left-labelOffset-rect.height(), bottom));
-    painter.rotate(-90);
-    //JKQTPEnhancedPainter::RenderHints h=painter.renderHints();
-    //painter.drawRect(rect);
-    //painter.drawEllipse(-4, -4, 8, 8);
-    switch(axisStyle.labelPosition) {
-        case JKQTPLabelMax:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelMin:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelCenter:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
+    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), labSize.overallHeight);
+    QPointF pos0(left-labelOffset-rect.height(), bottom);
+    Qt::Alignment align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
+    double rot=-90;
+    if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(left-labSize.width/2.0, bottom-getParentPlotWidth()-labelOffset0-labSize.overallHeight);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+        rot=0;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(left-labSize.width/2.0, bottom+labelOffset0);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+        rot=0;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMin) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMax) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelCenter) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
     }
+    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
+    painter.translate(pos0);
+    painter.rotate(rot);
+    getParentMathText()->draw(painter, align, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
+
+
+
     if (getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowRegionBoxes) {
         painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinnerif=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
         QPen p("magenta");
@@ -1574,7 +1665,8 @@ void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double
 }
 
 void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double right, double bottom, QSizeF labelMax, JKQTPCADrawMode drawMode) {
-    double labelOffset=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    const double labelOffset0=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    double labelOffset=labelOffset0;
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickOutsideLength);
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
         labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickLabelDistance);
@@ -1586,28 +1678,38 @@ void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double
     getParentMathText()->setFontSpecial(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName);
     getParentMathText()->setFontColor(axisStyle.labelColor);
     getParentMathText()->parse(axisLabel);
-    const JKQTMathTextNodeSize labelsize=getParentMathText()->getSizeDetail(painter);
+
+    const auto labSize=getParentMathText()->getSizeDetail(painter);
 
 
-    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), labelsize.overallHeight);//plotBorderLeft-30);
-    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
-    painter.translate(QPointF(right+labelOffset, bottom));
-    painter.rotate(-90);
-
-    //JKQTPEnhancedPainter::RenderHints h=painter.renderHints();
-    //painter.drawRect(rect);
-    //painter.drawEllipse(-4, -4, 8, 8);
-    switch(axisStyle.labelPosition) {
-        case JKQTPLabelMax:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelMin:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelCenter:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
+    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), labSize.overallHeight);
+    QPointF pos0(right+labelOffset+rect.height(), bottom);
+    Qt::Alignment align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
+    double rot=-90;
+    if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(right-labSize.width/2.0, bottom-getParentPlotWidth()-labelOffset0-labSize.overallHeight);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+        rot=0;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(right-labSize.width/2.0, bottom+labelOffset0);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+        rot=0;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMin) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMax) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelCenter) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
     }
+    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
+    painter.translate(pos0);
+    painter.rotate(rot);
+    getParentMathText()->draw(painter, align, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
+
+
+
     if (getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowRegionBoxes) {
         painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinnerif=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
         QPen p("magenta");
@@ -1885,9 +1987,8 @@ void JKQTPVerticalAxisBase::drawAxes(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, int move1, i
         QColor col=p.color(); col.setAlphaF(0.8f); p.setColor(col);
         painter.setPen(p);
         painter.setBrush(QBrush(QColor(Qt::transparent)));
-        QSizeF s1, s2;
-        s1=getSize1(painter);
-        s2=getSize2(painter);
+        const QSizeF s1(getSize1(painter).requiredSize, getParentPlotWidth());
+        const QSizeF s2(getSize2(painter).requiredSize, getParentPlotWidth());
         painter.drawRect(QRectF(QPointF(left-s1.width(), top), s1));
         painter.drawRect(QRectF(QPointF(right, top), s2));
 
@@ -2040,22 +2141,41 @@ JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase(JKQTBasePlotter* parent):
 }
 
 
-std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF> JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode0==JKQTPCADMnone) return std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF>(QSizeF(0,0),QSizeF(0,0));
+JKQTPCoordinateAxis::Axis0ElementsSizeDescription JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode0==JKQTPCADMnone) return Axis0ElementsSizeDescription();
+    Axis0ElementsSizeDescription res;
     double ptheight=0;
     double ptheight_t=0;
-    const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode1&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
+    const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode0&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
     double labheight=0;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) { ptheight+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength; ptheight_t+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength; }
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode0.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) { ptheight+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength; ptheight_t+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength; }
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode0.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
         ptheight+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
         // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
-        labheight+=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter).height();
+        const QSizeF maxLabelSize=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter);
+        if (getTickLabelAngle()<-0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
+        else if (getTickLabelAngle()<0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
+        if (getTickLabelAngle()>0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
+        else if (getTickLabelAngle()>-0.0000001)
+            res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
+        labheight+=maxLabelSize.height();
     }
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
-        ptheight+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
-        // find out size of axis label
-        labheight+=parent->getTextSizeSize(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter).height();
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode0.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
+        const auto labSize=parent->getTextSizeDetail(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter);
+        if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+            labheight=qMax(labheight, labSize.getDescent());
+            res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.width);
+        } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+            labheight=qMax(labheight, labSize.getDescent());
+            res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.width);
+        } else {
+            ptheight+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
+            // find out size of axis label
+            labheight+=labSize.overallHeight;
+        }
     }
 
     const double zaxispos=getZeroAxisPos();
@@ -2064,63 +2184,114 @@ std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF> JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter&
     const double right=x2p(axismax);
     const double right_offset=right-zaxispos;
 
-    return std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF>(
-                QSizeF(getParentPlotWidth(), qMax(0.0,qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight)+labheight)-left_offset)),
-                QSizeF(getParentPlotWidth(), qMax(0.0,qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight_t))-right_offset))
-                );
+    res.requiredSize=qMax<double>(0.0,qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight)+labheight)-left_offset);
+    res.requiredSizeOpposite=qMax<double>(0.0,qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight_t))-right_offset);
+
+    return res;
 }
 
-QSizeF JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, double *elongateLeft, double *elongateRight) {
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1==JKQTPCADMnone) return QSize(0,0);
-    double ptheight=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
-    const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode1&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
-    double labheight=0;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptheight+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
-        ptheight+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
-        // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
-        const QSizeF maxLabelSize=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter);
-        if (elongateLeft) {
+JKQTPCoordinateAxis::AxisElementsSizeDescription JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
+    AxisElementsSizeDescription res;
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode1!=JKQTPCADMnone) {
+        double ptheight=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
+        const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode1&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
+        double labheight=0;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptheight+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
+            ptheight+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
+            // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
+            const QSizeF maxLabelSize=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter);
             if (getTickLabelAngle()<-0.0000001)
-                *elongateLeft=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
             else if (getTickLabelAngle()<0.0000001)
-                *elongateLeft=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
-        }
-        if (elongateRight) {
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
             if (getTickLabelAngle()>0.0000001)
-                *elongateRight=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
             else if (getTickLabelAngle()>-0.0000001)
-                *elongateRight=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
+            labheight+=maxLabelSize.height();
         }
-        labheight+=maxLabelSize.height();
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
+            const auto labSize=parent->getTextSizeDetail(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter);
+            if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+                labheight=qMax(labheight, labSize.getDescent());
+                res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.width);
+            } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+                labheight=qMax(labheight, labSize.getDescent());
+                res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.width);
+            } else {
+                ptheight+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
+                // find out size of axis label
+                labheight+=labSize.overallHeight;
+            }
+        }
+        res.requiredSize=qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight)+labheight);
     }
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode1.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
-        ptheight+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
-        // find out size of axis label
-        labheight+=parent->getTextSizeSize(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter).height();
-    }
-
-    return QSizeF(getParentPlotWidth(), qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight)+labheight)).expandedTo(getSize0(painter).first);
+    const auto size0=getSize0(painter);
+    res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, size0.elongateMax);
+    res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, size0.elongateMin);
+    res.requiredSize=qMax(res.requiredSize, size0.requiredSize);
+    return res;
 }
 
-QSizeF JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2==JKQTPCADMnone) return QSize(0,0);
-    double ptheight=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
-    const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode2&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
-    double labheight=0;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptheight+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
-        ptheight+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
-        // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
-        labheight+=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter).height();
-    }
-    if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
-        ptheight+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
-        // find out size of axis label
-        labheight+=parent->getTextSizeSize(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter).height();
+QSizeF JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getQSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter)
+{
+    return QSizeF(getParentPlotWidth(), getSize1(painter).requiredSize);
+}
+
+JKQTPCoordinateAxis::AxisElementsSizeDescription JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) {
+    AxisElementsSizeDescription res;
+    if (axisStyle.drawMode2!=JKQTPCADMnone) {
+        double ptheight=axisStyle.axisLineOffset;
+        const double arrowSize=((axisStyle.drawMode2&(JKQTPCADMMinArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxArrow|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow))!=int(0))?(axisStyle.getArrowSize(painter, parent)/2.0):0.0;
+        double labheight=0;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) ptheight+=axisStyle.tickOutsideLength;
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
+            ptheight+=axisStyle.tickLabelDistance;
+            // find out the maximum width over all visible plot labels
+            const QSizeF maxLabelSize=getMaxTickLabelSize(painter);
+            if (getTickLabelAngle()<-0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
+            else if (getTickLabelAngle()<0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMin=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
+            if (getTickLabelAngle()>0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.width()+2;
+            else if (getTickLabelAngle()>-0.0000001)
+                res.elongateMax=maxLabelSize.width()*0.6+2;
+            labheight+=maxLabelSize.height();
+        }
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
+            const auto labSize=parent->getTextSizeDetail(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter);
+            if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+                labheight=qMax(labheight, labSize.getDescent());
+                res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.width);
+            } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+                labheight=qMax(labheight, labSize.getDescent());
+                res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance)*1.5+labSize.width);
+            } else {
+                ptheight+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
+                // find out size of axis label
+                labheight+=labSize.overallHeight;
+            }
+        }
+        if (axisStyle.drawMode2.testFlag(JKQTPCADMAxisLabel)) {
+            ptheight+=axisStyle.labelDistance;
+            // find out size of axis label
+            labheight+=parent->getTextSizeSize(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName, axisStyle.labelFontSize*parent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), axisLabel, painter).height();
+        }
+        res.requiredSize=qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight)+labheight);
     }
 
-    return QSizeF(getParentPlotWidth(), qMax(arrowSize,parent->pt2px(painter, ptheight)+labheight)).expandedTo(getSize0(painter).second);
+    const auto size0=getSize0(painter);
+    res.elongateMax=qMax(res.elongateMax, size0.elongateMax);
+    res.elongateMin=qMax(res.elongateMin, size0.elongateMin);
+    res.requiredSize=qMax(res.requiredSize, size0.requiredSizeOpposite);
+    return res;
+}
+
+QSizeF JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::getQSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter)
+{
+    return QSizeF(getParentPlotWidth(), getSize2(painter).requiredSize);
 }
 
 
@@ -2247,7 +2418,8 @@ void JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::drawTickLabel2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, doub
 
 
 void JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double left, double bottom, QSizeF labelMax, JKQTPCADrawMode drawMode) {
-    double labelOffset=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    const double labelOffset0=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    double labelOffset=labelOffset0;
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickOutsideLength);
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
         labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickLabelDistance);
@@ -2259,27 +2431,32 @@ void JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, doub
     getParentMathText()->setFontSpecial(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().defaultFontName);
     getParentMathText()->setFontColor(axisStyle.labelColor);
     getParentMathText()->parse(axisLabel);
-    double width, ascent, descent, strikeoutPos;
-    getParentMathText()->getSizeDetail(painter, width, ascent, descent, strikeoutPos);
+
+    const auto labSize=getParentMathText()->getSizeDetail(painter);
 
 
-    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), ascent+descent);//plotBorderLeft-30);
-    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
-    painter.translate(QPointF(left, bottom+labelOffset));
-    //JKQTPEnhancedPainter::RenderHints h=painter.renderHints();
-    //painter.drawRect(rect);
-    //painter.drawEllipse(-4, -4, 8, 8);
-    switch(axisStyle.labelPosition) {
-        case JKQTPLabelMax:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelMin:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelCenter:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
+    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), labSize.overallHeight);
+    QPointF pos0(left, bottom+labelOffset);
+    Qt::Alignment align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
+    if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(left+getParentPlotWidth()+labelOffset0, bottom-labSize.baselineHeight);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(left-labelOffset0-labSize.width, bottom-labSize.baselineHeight);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMin) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMax) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelCenter) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
     }
+    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
+    painter.translate(pos0);
+    getParentMathText()->draw(painter, align, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
+
     if (getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowRegionBoxes) {
         painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinnerif=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
         QPen p("magenta");
@@ -2293,7 +2470,8 @@ void JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, doub
 }
 
 void JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, double left, double top, QSizeF labelMax, JKQTPCADrawMode drawMode) {
-    double labelOffset=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    const double labelOffset0=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.labelDistance);
+    double labelOffset=labelOffset0;
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTicks)) labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickOutsideLength);
     if (drawMode.testFlag(JKQTPCADMTickLabels)) {
         labelOffset+=parent->pt2px(painter, axisStyle.tickLabelDistance);
@@ -2306,24 +2484,31 @@ void JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::drawAxisLabel2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter &painter, doub
     getParentMathText()->setFontColor(axisStyle.labelColor);
     getParentMathText()->parse(axisLabel);
 
+    const auto labSize=getParentMathText()->getSizeDetail(painter);
 
-    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), getParentMathText()->getSize(painter).height());//plotBorderLeft-30);
-    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
-    painter.translate(QPointF(left, top-labelOffset-rect.height()));
-    //JKQTPEnhancedPainter::RenderHints h=painter.renderHints();
-    //painter.drawRect(rect);
-    //painter.drawEllipse(-4, -4, 8, 8);
-    switch(axisStyle.labelPosition) {
-        case JKQTPLabelMax:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelMin:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
-        case JKQTPLabelCenter:
-            getParentMathText()->draw(painter, Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
-            break;
+
+    QRectF rect(0,0, getParentPlotWidth(), labSize.overallHeight);
+    QPointF pos0(left, top-labelOffset-rect.height());
+    Qt::Alignment align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
+    if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMaxBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(left+getParentPlotWidth()+labelOffset0, top-labSize.baselineHeight);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMinBesides) {
+        rect=QRectF(0,0, labSize.width, labSize.overallHeight);
+        pos0=QPointF(left-labelOffset0-labSize.width, top-labSize.baselineHeight);
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMin) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignLeft;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelMax) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignRight;
+    } else if (axisStyle.labelPosition==JKQTPLabelCenter) {
+        align=Qt::AlignBottom|Qt::AlignHCenter;
     }
+    painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinner=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
+    painter.translate(pos0);
+    getParentMathText()->draw(painter, align, rect, parent->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowTextBoxes);
+
     if (getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugShowRegionBoxes) {
         painter.save(); auto __finalpaintinnerif=JKQTPFinally([&painter]() {painter.restore();});
         QPen p("magenta");
@@ -2594,9 +2779,8 @@ void JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase::drawAxes(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, int move1,
         p.setWidthF(getParent()->getCurrentPlotterStyle().debugRegionLineWidth);
         painter.setPen(p);
         painter.setBrush(QBrush(QColor(Qt::transparent)));
-        QSizeF s1,s2;
-        s1=getSize1(painter);
-        s2=getSize2(painter);
+        const QSizeF s1(getParentPlotWidth(), getSize1(painter).requiredSize);
+        const QSizeF s2(getParentPlotWidth(), getSize2(painter).requiredSize);
         painter.drawRect(QRectF(QPointF(left, bottom), s1));
         painter.drawRect(QRectF(QPointF(left, top-s2.height()), s2));
 
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.h b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.h
index 3407651603..250a6a92fe 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.h
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpcoordinateaxes.h
@@ -245,11 +245,34 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTPCoordinateAxis: public QObject {
         /** \brief add a new tick label to the axis */
         void addAxisTickLabels(const double* x, const QString* label, int items);
 
-        /** \brief returns the size of the left/bottom axis in pixels */
-        virtual QSizeF getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, double* elongateMin=nullptr, double* elongateMax=nullptr)=0;
 
-        /** \brief returns the size of the right/top axis in pixels */
-        virtual QSizeF getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter)=0;
+        /** \brief return value type for getSize1() and getSize2() */
+        struct JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT AxisElementsSizeDescription {
+            inline AxisElementsSizeDescription(double _requiredSize=0.0, double _elongateMin=0.0, double _elongateMax=0.0): requiredSize(_requiredSize), elongateMin(_elongateMin), elongateMax(_elongateMax) {}
+
+            /** \brief required space, starting at the axis line, in outward direction [pixels] */
+            double requiredSize;
+            /** \brief extra space on the min (horizontal: left, vertical: bottom) side BESIDE the axis, e.g. when labels elongate to the left/right or top/bottom of the plot rectangle [pixels] */
+            double elongateMin;
+            /** \brief extra space on the max (horizontal: right, vertical: top) side BESIDE the axis, e.g. when labels elongate to the left/right or top/bottom of the plot rectangle [pixels] */
+            double elongateMax;
+        };
+
+        /** \brief returns the sizerequirement of the left/bottom axis in pixels
+         *
+         *  \param painter a JKQTPEnhancedPainter to use for determining sizes (the same that would be used for drawing!)
+         *
+         *  \returns size of the additional space outside the plot rectangle, required for the axis.
+         */
+        virtual AxisElementsSizeDescription getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter)=0;
+
+        /** \brief returns the size of the right/top axis in pixels
+         *
+         *  \param painter a JKQTPEnhancedPainter to use for determining sizes (the same that would be used for drawing!)
+         *
+         *  \returns size of the additional space outside the plot rectangle, required for the axis.
+         */
+        virtual AxisElementsSizeDescription getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter)=0;
 
         /** \brief draw the axes
          *
@@ -672,8 +695,17 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTPCoordinateAxis: public QObject {
         void setColor(QColor c) ;
 
     protected:
+        struct JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT Axis0ElementsSizeDescription: public AxisElementsSizeDescription {
+            inline Axis0ElementsSizeDescription(double _requiredSize=0.0, double _requiredSizeOpposite=0.0, double _elongateMin=0.0, double _elongateMax=0.0): AxisElementsSizeDescription(_requiredSize, _elongateMin, _elongateMax), requiredSizeOpposite(_requiredSizeOpposite) {}
+            /** \brief additional size, required for the axis, in the opposite direction as AxisElementsSizeDescription::requiredSize */
+            double requiredSizeOpposite;
+            inline double maxRequiredSize() const {
+                return qMax(requiredSize,requiredSizeOpposite);
+            }
+        };
+
         /** \brief returns the size of the zero axis in pixels, the first part of the return-value is the lhs size and the second part the rhs size */
-        virtual std::pair<QSizeF, QSizeF> getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) ;
+        virtual Axis0ElementsSizeDescription getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) ;
         /** \brief indicates whether one of the parameters has changed sinse the last recalculation of tickSpacing ... */
         bool paramsChanged;
         /** \brief can be used to switch off calcPlotScaling() temporarily, while modifying some properties
@@ -900,10 +932,12 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTPVerticalAxisBase: public JKQTPCoordinateAxis {
         JKQTPVerticalAxisBase(JKQTBasePlotter* parent);
 
         /** \brief returns the size of the left axis in pixels */
-        virtual QSizeF getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, double *elongateBottom=nullptr, double* elongateTop=nullptr) override;
+        virtual AxisElementsSizeDescription getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        QSizeF getQSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter);
 
         /** \brief returns the size of the right axis in pixels */
-        virtual QSizeF getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        virtual AxisElementsSizeDescription getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        QSizeF getQSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter);
 
         /** copydoc JKQTPCoordinateAxis::drawAxes() */
         virtual void drawAxes(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, int move1=0, int move2=0) override;
@@ -914,7 +948,7 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTPVerticalAxisBase: public JKQTPCoordinateAxis {
 
     protected:
         /** copydoc JKQTPCoordinateAxis::getSize0() */
-        virtual std::pair<QSizeF,QSizeF> getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        virtual Axis0ElementsSizeDescription getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
         /** \brief draw a tick label on the left axis 1 with text \a label (with optional rotation) at ( \a xx , \a yy ) (in pixel)
          *
          *  \param painter the JKQTPEnhancedPainter used for drawing
@@ -1081,10 +1115,12 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase: public JKQTPCoordinateAxis
         JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase(JKQTBasePlotter* parent);
 
         /** \brief returns the size of the bottom axis in pixels */
-        virtual QSizeF getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, double* elongateLeft=nullptr, double* elongateRight=nullptr) override;
+        virtual AxisElementsSizeDescription getSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        QSizeF getQSize1(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter);
 
         /** \brief returns the size of the top axis in pixels */
-        virtual QSizeF getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        virtual AxisElementsSizeDescription getSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        QSizeF getQSize2(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter);
 
         /** copydoc JKQTPCoordinateAxis::drawAxes() */
         virtual void drawAxes(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter, int move1=0, int move2=0) override;
@@ -1095,7 +1131,7 @@ class JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTPHorizontalAxisBase: public JKQTPCoordinateAxis
 
     protected:
         /** copydoc JKQTPCoordinateAxis::getSize0() */
-        virtual std::pair<QSizeF, QSizeF> getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
+        virtual Axis0ElementsSizeDescription getSize0(JKQTPEnhancedPainter& painter) override;
         /** \brief draw a tick label on the lower axis 1 with text \a label (with optional rotation) at ( \a xx , \a yy ) (in pixel)
          *
          *  \param painter the JKQTPEnhancedPainter used for drawing
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpimagetools.cpp b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpimagetools.cpp
index 3ace19d098..d5b794ccd6 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpimagetools.cpp
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtpimagetools.cpp
@@ -81,19 +81,19 @@ void JKQTPColorPaletteStyleAndToolsMixin::cbGetOutsideSize(JKQTPEnhancedPainter&
             rightSpace+=cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset);
             colorBarRightAxis->setRange(internalDataMin, internalDataMax);
             colorBarRightAxis->setAxisWidth(colorBarRelativeHeight*cbParent->getPlotHeight());
-            QSizeF s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
-            QSizeF s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
-            QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
-            rightSpace+=qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.width()+s2.width()), static_cast<double>(names.width()));
+            const auto s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
+            const auto s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
+            const QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
+            rightSpace+=qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.requiredSize+s2.requiredSize), static_cast<double>(names.width()));
         }
         if (colorBarTopVisible) {
             //topSpace+=cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset);
             colorBarTopAxis->setRange(internalDataMin, internalDataMax);
             colorBarTopAxis->setAxisWidth(colorBarRelativeHeight*cbParent->getPlotWidth());
-            QSizeF s1=colorBarTopAxis->getSize2(painter);
-            QSizeF s2=colorBarTopAxis->getSize1(painter);
-            QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
-            topSpace+=cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.height()+s2.height()), static_cast<double>(names.height()));
+            const auto s1=colorBarTopAxis->getSize2(painter);
+            const auto s2=colorBarTopAxis->getSize1(painter);
+            const QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
+            topSpace+=cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.requiredSize+s2.requiredSize), static_cast<double>(names.height()));
         }
     }
 }
@@ -562,10 +562,10 @@ void JKQTPColorPaletteWithModifierStyleAndToolsMixin::cbGetOutsideSize(JKQTPEnha
             colorBarRightAxis->setAxisWidth(colorBarRelativeHeight*cbParent->getPlotHeight());
             modifierColorBarRightAxis->setRange(internalModifierMin, internalModifierMax);
             modifierColorBarRightAxis->setAxisWidth(cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarModifiedWidth));
-            QSizeF s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
-            QSizeF s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
-            QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
-            rightSpace+=qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.width()+s2.width()), static_cast<double>(names.width()));
+            const auto s1=colorBarRightAxis->getSize2(painter);
+            const auto s2=colorBarRightAxis->getSize1(painter);
+            const QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
+            rightSpace+=qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.requiredSize+s2.requiredSize), static_cast<double>(names.width()));
             if (modifierMode!=JKQTPMathImageModifierMode::ModifyNone) {
                 rightSpace=rightSpace+static_cast<int>(2.0*cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarModifiedWidth-colorBarWidth));
             }
@@ -576,10 +576,10 @@ void JKQTPColorPaletteWithModifierStyleAndToolsMixin::cbGetOutsideSize(JKQTPEnha
             colorBarTopAxis->setAxisWidth(colorBarRelativeHeight*cbParent->getPlotWidth());
             modifierColorBarTopAxis->setRange(internalModifierMin, internalModifierMax);
             modifierColorBarTopAxis->setAxisWidth(cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarModifiedWidth));
-            QSizeF s1=colorBarTopAxis->getSize2(painter);
-            QSizeF s2=colorBarTopAxis->getSize1(painter);
-            QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
-            topSpace+=cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.height()+s2.height()), static_cast<double>(names.height()));
+            const auto s1=colorBarTopAxis->getSize2(painter);
+            const auto s2=colorBarTopAxis->getSize1(painter);
+            const QSizeF names=cbParent->getTextSizeSize(imageNameFontName, imageNameFontSize*cbParent->getFontSizeMultiplier(), imageName, painter);
+            topSpace+=cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarWidth+colorBarOffset)+qMax(static_cast<double>(s1.requiredSize+s2.requiredSize), static_cast<double>(names.height()));
             if (modifierMode!=JKQTPMathImageModifierMode::ModifyNone) {
                 topSpace=topSpace+static_cast<int>(2.0*cbParent->pt2px(painter, colorBarModifiedWidth-colorBarWidth));
             }
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.cpp b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.cpp
index cac444b71f..39ce337c8b 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.cpp
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.cpp
@@ -140,9 +140,11 @@ JKQTPCALabelType String2JKQTPCALabelType(const QString& pos) {
 
 QString JKQTPLabelPosition2String(JKQTPLabelPosition pos) {
     switch(pos) {
-        case JKQTPLabelMin: return "min";
-        case JKQTPLabelMax: return "max";
-        case JKQTPLabelCenter: return "center";
+    case JKQTPLabelMin: return "min";
+    case JKQTPLabelMax: return "max";
+    case JKQTPLabelMinBesides: return "minBesides";
+    case JKQTPLabelMaxBesides: return "maxBesides";
+    case JKQTPLabelCenter: return "center";
     }
     return "";
 }
@@ -151,6 +153,8 @@ JKQTPLabelPosition String2JKQTPLabelPosition(const QString& pos) {
     QString s=pos.trimmed().toLower();
     if (s=="min") return JKQTPLabelMin;
     if (s=="max") return JKQTPLabelMax;
+    if (s=="minbesides") return JKQTPLabelMinBesides;
+    if (s=="maxbesides") return JKQTPLabelMaxBesides;
     if (s=="center") return JKQTPLabelCenter;
     return JKQTPLabelCenter;
 }
diff --git a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.h b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.h
index d0dd6061bb..d33eb398f6 100644
--- a/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.h
+++ b/lib/jkqtplotter/jkqtptools.h
@@ -504,10 +504,22 @@ JKQTPLOTTER_LIB_EXPORT JKQTPCALabelType String2JKQTPCALabelType(const QString& p
  * \ingroup jkqtpplottersupprt
  */
 enum JKQTPLabelPosition {
-    JKQTPLabelMin=0,            /*!< \brief the axis label is near the min value of the axis (left/bottom) */
-    JKQTPLabelMax,            /*!< \brief the axis label is near the max value of the axis (right/top) */
-    JKQTPLabelCenter,          /*!< \brief the label is at the center of the axis */
-    JKQTPLabelPositionMax=JKQTPLabelCenter
+    JKQTPLabelMin=0,            /*!< \brief the axis label is near the min value of the axis (left/bottom)
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMin.png
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMin_zeroaxis.png */
+    JKQTPLabelMax,             /*!< \brief the axis label is near the max value of the axis (right/top)
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMax.png
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMax_zeroaxis.png */
+    JKQTPLabelCenter,          /*!< \brief the label is at the center of the axis
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelCenter.png
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelCenter_zeroaxis.png */
+    JKQTPLabelMinBesides,      /*!< \brief the axis label is near the min value of the axis (left/bottom), but besides the axis tip
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMinBesides.png
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMinBesides_zeroaxis.png */
+    JKQTPLabelMaxBesides,      /*!< \brief the axis label is near the max value of the axis (right/top), but besides the axis tip
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMaxBesides.png
+                                     \image html labelstyles/JKQTPLabelMaxBesides_zeroaxis.png */
+    JKQTPLabelPositionMax=JKQTPLabelMaxBesides
 };
 
 
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diff --git a/tools/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator.cpp b/tools/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator.cpp
index 6117985089..9cbc5990e4 100644
--- a/tools/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator.cpp
+++ b/tools/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator/jkqtplotter_doc_imagegenerator.cpp
@@ -443,15 +443,15 @@ void doListLabelPosition(const QDir& outputDir, int iconsize, QColor backgroundC
     JKQTBasePlotter plot(true);
 
     plot.setXY(0,100,0,100);
-    plot.setWidgetSize(iconsize*5,5*iconsize);
+    plot.setWidgetSize(iconsize*7,5*iconsize);
     plot.setShowKey(false);
     plot.setGrid(true);
     plot.setExportBackgroundColor(QColor("lightgrey"));
     plot.getXAxis()->setShowZeroAxis(false);
     plot.getYAxis()->setShowZeroAxis(false);
-    plot.getXAxis()->setDrawMode1(JKQTPCADMLine|JKQTPCADMTicks|JKQTPCADMAxisLabel|JKQTPCADMTicksTickLabels);
+    plot.getXAxis()->setDrawMode1(JKQTPCADMLine|JKQTPCADMTicks|JKQTPCADMAxisLabel);
     plot.getXAxis()->setDrawGrid(false);
-    plot.getYAxis()->setDrawMode1(JKQTPCADMLine|JKQTPCADMTicks|JKQTPCADMAxisLabel|JKQTPCADMTicksTickLabels);
+    plot.getYAxis()->setDrawMode1(JKQTPCADMLine|JKQTPCADMTicks|JKQTPCADMAxisLabel);
     plot.getYAxis()->setAxisLabel("y-axis-label");
     plot.getXAxis()->setAxisLabel("x-axis-label");
 
@@ -461,12 +461,34 @@ void doListLabelPosition(const QDir& outputDir, int iconsize, QColor backgroundC
         const JKQTPLabelPosition lt=static_cast<JKQTPLabelPosition>(lti);
         plot.getXAxis()->setLabelPosition(lt);
         plot.getYAxis()->setLabelPosition(lt);
-        plot.setPlotLabel("labelPos = "+JKQTPLabelPosition2String(lt));
+        plot.setPlotLabel("");//JKQTPLabelPosition2String(lt));
         QString ltn=JKQTPLabelPosition2String(lt);
         if (ltn.size()>0) ltn[0]=ltn[0].toUpper();
         plot.redrawPlot();
         plot.grabPixelImage(QSize(plot.getWidth(),plot.getHeight()), false).save(outputDir.absoluteFilePath("JKQTPLabel"+ltn+".png"), "png");
     }
+
+    plot.setXY(-30,100,-40,100);
+    plot.getXAxis()->setShowZeroAxis(true);
+    plot.getYAxis()->setShowZeroAxis(true);
+    plot.getXAxis()->setDrawMode1(JKQTPCADMnone);
+    plot.getXAxis()->setDrawMode2(JKQTPCADMnone);
+    plot.getXAxis()->setDrawMode0(JKQTPCADMLine|JKQTPCADMTicks|JKQTPCADMAxisLabel|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow);
+    plot.getXAxis()->setDrawGrid(false);
+    plot.getYAxis()->setDrawMode0(JKQTPCADMLine|JKQTPCADMTicks|JKQTPCADMAxisLabel|JKQTPCADMMaxFilledArrow|JKQTPCADMMinFilledArrow);
+    plot.getYAxis()->setDrawMode1(JKQTPCADMnone);
+    plot.getYAxis()->setDrawMode2(JKQTPCADMnone);
+
+    for (int lti=0; lti<=JKQTPLabelPositionMax; lti++) {
+        const JKQTPLabelPosition lt=static_cast<JKQTPLabelPosition>(lti);
+        plot.getXAxis()->setLabelPosition(lt);
+        plot.getYAxis()->setLabelPosition(lt);
+        plot.setPlotLabel("");//JKQTPLabelPosition2String(lt));
+        QString ltn=JKQTPLabelPosition2String(lt);
+        if (ltn.size()>0) ltn[0]=ltn[0].toUpper();
+        plot.redrawPlot();
+        plot.grabPixelImage(QSize(plot.getWidth(),plot.getHeight()), false).save(outputDir.absoluteFilePath("JKQTPLabel"+ltn+"_zeroaxis.png"), "png");
+    }
 }
 
 void plotStyle(const QSettings& style, QSize examplePlotSize, const QString& examplePlotFilename, QSize samplePlotSize, const QString& samplePlotFilename ) {